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  • Ready & Waiting For Some Debating

       September 30, 2004

    7:18 pm
    While I'm not up for the Presidential Debate Drinking Game, I have to confess that I will be having a beer or two during this debate. Condemn me if you must, but at least I'm not a "one-can Wendy" like some candidates I could mention.

    7:30 pm

    I'm a little nervous for Bush, but I know that the more people see of John Kerry, the less they like him. And they'll see a lot of 'ole leatherface tonight. Of course, some people will actively avoid the debates. A woman I work with taped all of her favorite shows last night so she can relax at home and not watch the debate tonight. I think there are many millions just like her out there.

    Yikes, that's one bright red carpet. Why does the stage have to be red, white and blue? How about a nice olive and grey? Fox says Bush has to tone down the "testosterone levels"? Huh? People like him because he's not a pussy like Kerry. Donna Shalala gave tickets to the debate to U of Miami students. That's pretty cool. I have fond memories of Shalala from her time at UW-Madison. I appreciated that someone on campus was shorter than me.

    8:06 pm
    Kerry says he would reach "out to the Muslim world, which the President has almost not done." Um, doesn't that mean that he has done it? Bush blew his response. He should have called Kerry on his "allies" B.S. Point all the allies we have and point out how Kerry has insulted them. Bad rebuttal.

    Wait, we should have allies in Iraq, but Bush was wrong to rely on allies in Afghanistan. I hope Bush points that out.

    Opium? Huh? What the hell? Hmm...maybe there's a reason Kerry has opium on his mind.

    Kerry's approach to Homeland Security is to focus on cops and firefighters because they're "first responders"? That's just great. How does that protect anyone from an attack? Isn't that more of an admission that Kerry's focus is to hand out other people's tax money after we're attacked again?

    Grrr...Bush, please call Kerry on the allies comments. Now. He needs to point out all the other countries in Iraq right now. It would be devastating.

    Thank you. It's about time Bush layed the smack down on this nitwit. I have the feeling Bush wants to jump across the stage and pound Kerry. If he doesn't, I certainly want to. Heh...way to forget about Poland, Kerry.

    Why does Kerry keep bringing up Vietnam? Did he serve there or something?

    I'm glad that Bush nailed Kerry on his remarks about Allawi. I wish Bush would have pointed out that Kerry didn't even have the decency to be in Congress for his speech. If he's so concerned about allies, don't you think he'd be first in line to meet them? God, I hate Kerry. I can't stand even 45 minutes of this man. I feel so sorry for Teresa. No wonder she's so angry.

    I was just going to mention that Bush should mention his diplomatic success with Libya. And he did. Yay, Bush. I think he needs to make the point that different situations call for different solutions. Now Bush needs to say this: "Osama Bin Laden didn't attack us. Radical Islamic terrorists attacked us."

    Sweet, Kerry is admitting that he'd go to the UN for a permission slip. Also, didn't North Korea get nukes in the Clinton administration? Oooh, now Kerry is going to bring up Kyoto. It's like he's reading from the insane leftist script tonight. He even said the magical liberal leftist word (Halliburton). This is awesome, Bush is bringing up the International Criminal Court. Of course, he's not explaining his reasoning very well.

    Darfur is genocide and according to Kerry we have a moral obligation to send troops. So, is genocide in Iraq not worthy of sending troops? Kerry's just talking out of his ass tonight. It's too bad Bush can't just say, "hey, we let the UN take the lead in Darfur, like my opponent wants them to take the lead in the War on Terror. The events in Darfur show the half-assed job the UN would do. Aren't you glad that I'm for having America take the lead in defending herself?"

    Okay, Kerry's comment on Bush's sense of certainty is actual his best point of the night. I can understand how Bush's certainty might be a comfort to some and a concern to others. This is by far the most lucid point Kerry has made.

    Here's the first line from a review of Kerry's book that he just referenced:

    In a cursory overview of international crime, Senator Kerry (D-Mass.) implausibly calls for foreign criminal law to be imported into the United States to prosecute nationals of other countries who plan crimes here then conduct them abroad.

    This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with nuclear proliferation.

    Praise the Lord, this is almost over. I feel like Kerry's main message is that "I will do the same things Bush does, but different and better." What the hell does that mean?

    What's interesting is that Kerry talks in vague terms about "his plans", while Bush is closing with some actual tactics. It comes down to this: Bush is a doer and Kerry is a criticizer. It makes sense because, as a Senator who rarely actually votes, Kerry has very little real experience in making decisions.

    I like that Bush closed by asking for our votes. People forget that you have to ask for what you want. I think Bush was okay, but Kerry was horrible.

    I'm still really pissed that Kerry forgot all about Poland's contribution in Iraq.

    Fox is actually giving pretty high remarks to Kerry. They say the President looked tired. I think in Bush's case that's not a bad thing. He should be tired. He's doing an extremely hard job while Kerry's out windsurfing.

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    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Steve S at September 30, 2004 08:51 PM

    "change the dynamics on the ground"? what the h*ll does that mean? Trying to prove how smart he is, but buzwords ain't gonna do it

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Steve S at September 30, 2004 09:03 PM

    "the word of the president o fthe US is good enough for me. How many people in the world today still think that?"

    A heck of a lot fewer, thanks to a political party whose thirst for power outweighs all other considerations, even to the point of aiding and comforting our nation's enemies in order to return to a position of power.

    Pathetic. Too bad so few people are watching this debate. But, then, it wouldn't change many minds, anyway.


    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: seal-lover at September 30, 2004 09:30 PM

    I wish one of the conditions Pres. Bush asked for was to have Kerry's hands tied behind his back. It's almost like he's trying to translate what he saying to hearing impaired people as he speaks. It's so irritating. Is it just me or were his hands actually shaking a little those first 15 minutes or so?

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Mamamontezz at September 30, 2004 10:02 PM

    I say that the Bush camp should demand they pitch out the arrangements for the next debate and demand a new debate set-up: Closed room, two straight-back chairs, one table. Like a police interrogation room with a two way mirror and two cameras, one for each. No moderator. Have at it. Forget this formal, nicie-nice, speechified pseudo-debate nonsense. I want a real, knock-down, no holds barred, head to head discussion.

    Am I really so bad for wanting something that might be interesting to watch?

    Did I mention that I also want Bush to motion to the mirror with a beckoning motion, and a big, hard-assed MP walks in with UBL in chains?

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Joe R. at September 30, 2004 10:04 PM

    "I have to confess that I will be having a beer or two during this debate."


    OK, on topic...I think Kerry's going to come across well to the undecideds, and energize his base, which was all he needed to do.

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: kris at September 30, 2004 10:06 PM

    There's more to Wisconsin beer than Leinies. I have some Sprecher Amber and Point White Biere in my fridge. Yum.

    I think Kerry energized his base, but I think the undecideds have probably been asleep for at least 2 hours now.

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Michigan Dawg at September 30, 2004 10:26 PM

    Kris, I wish you had been one of the President's speech writers/debate preparers (whatever they're called) because you had some of the most insightful commentary I've read tonight.

    I've bookmarked your site (my first visit here) and I'm looking forward to returning.

    Great job!

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: james at September 30, 2004 10:40 PM

    i think youre on to something with the new debate setup suggestion, mamamontezz. i'd suggest keeping the current format, but throwing in a fear-factor style challenge between questions.

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: kris at September 30, 2004 10:41 PM

    Michigan Dawg,

    Thank you for the comments. I was afraid I was more "raving" than "insightful".

    Glad you like the site and we hope you keep coming back.

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Joe R. at September 30, 2004 11:05 PM

    Hm, I was trying to show some local knowledge, but I see my pathetic attempt to impress the ladies has FAILED.

    The White Biere sounds tasty though.

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: at October 5, 2004 05:58 PM

    "I think Bush was okay, but Kerry was horrible."

    Yeah, okay. You're about the only one.

    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: kris at October 5, 2004 06:23 PM

    thank you for your insightful comments




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