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  • I've Been Duped

       November 06, 2004

    Those readers that know me in the "real world" know all too well that I can be a little gullible, a little blonde sometimes. It happened again this week. I read all the talk about "moral values" deciding the election and fell for it hook, line and sinker. How can I have been so stupid? I know the media is biased, but for some reason I trusted them to report this election honestly. Will I never learn?

    David Brooks says exactly what I want to say in the New York Times today.

    Every election year, we in the commentariat come up with a story line to explain the result, and the story line has to have two features. First, it has to be completely wrong. Second, it has to reassure liberals that they are morally superior to the people who just defeated them.

    In past years, the story line has involved Angry White Males, or Willie Horton-bashing racists. This year, the official story is that throngs of homophobic, Red America values-voters surged to the polls to put George Bush over the top.

    This theory certainly flatters liberals, and it is certainly wrong.

    Brooks points out that according to the Pew Research Center, there was no surge in evangelical voters. And, that much of the press and their liberal friend's analysis comes from an exit poll question that vaguely asks if "moral values" played a part in the voter's decision. Obviously, this leaves the question of what exactly "moral values" are up to the analysts.

    The analysts have decided that it's all about gay marriage and that Bush voters are homophobes. Unfortunately for them, if you don't just take their word for it, you quickly find out it's a bunch of BS:

    Majorities oppose gay marriage, but in the exit polls Tuesday, 25 percent of the voters supported gay marriage and 35 percent of voters supported civil unions. There is a big middle on gay rights issues, as there is on most social issues.

    Let's see, 25 plus 35 is 60. So, in reality, 60% of voters believe that gay relationships should somehow be recognized by society. But, we haven't decided exactly how they should be recognized and we don't want individual judges making that decision for us. Fair enough.

    But, liberals are making gay marriage into the decisive issue of the campaign for two reasons. One, to demonize the opposition as a bunch of redneck homophobes and two, because it allows them to believe that they are still right on all issues and that there is no valid, intellectual opposition to their foreign policy and economic positions. In other words, I didn't vote for Bush because I believe in the Bush Doctrine and supply side economics. I voted for him because I'm either homophobic or too stupid to understand the genious of the liberal positions. And they say Bush can't both sides of an issue?

    Brooks sums it up just perfectly (and really, I'm shocked to be quoting something in the Times this much):

    But the same insularity that caused many liberals to lose touch with the rest of the country now causes them to simplify, misunderstand and condescend to the people who voted for Bush. If you want to understand why Democrats keep losing elections, just listen to some coastal and university town liberals talk about how conformist and intolerant people in Red America are. It makes you wonder: why is it that people who are completely closed-minded talk endlessly about how open-minded they are?

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    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Jim at November 7, 2004 01:21 AM

    The exit poll lists Terrorism and Iraq as separate choices. I, as a conservative, consider them as one and the same. Together, they total 34% while Moral Values equals 22%.

     
     
    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: VV at November 7, 2004 09:11 AM

    Ultimately, it's a big mixture of many different issues. I know that sounds almost like a truism, but really... I don't think moral values are what specifically carried this election.

     
     
    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Charles at November 7, 2004 05:25 PM

    It's interesting, isn't it, that the Republicans, being made up solely of greedy industrial robber-barons, Protestant fundamentalist preachers and the remainder inbred country hayseeds, have formed an alliance, being the most unlikely of partners, for the express purpose of thwarting homosexuals from ever being able to receive any insurance benefits or be in the same room when their "significant other" dies?

    Surely they're doing so for some monetary or political gain, and not on moral grounds! After all, it's not as if the judges in the country are attempting to force their own moral judgement down these people's throats by making law instead of just interpreting it!

     
     
    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: james at November 8, 2004 10:37 AM

    kris, i doubt that 25 + 35 = 60 in your polling example.

    there is undoubtedly overlap between the 2. i.e. the same 25% of the people that said yes to gay marriage also said yes to gay civil unions.

    no way does 60% of society support recognizing gay unions. for that matter, i'd think that there is no way that 35% do.

    also, keep in mind that pew has a liberal slant

     
     
    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: kris at November 8, 2004 10:41 AM

    Yeah, good point, my math is probably off, but I'd love to see some polling data on support for gay civil unions. I bet it's more than 35%.

    I think a lot of people who are opposed to gay marriage WOULD support civil unions that would allow gay couples the right to inherit, make medical decisions, etc.

     
     
    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: Bluehoo at November 8, 2004 11:08 AM

    Greetings from a fellow Madisonian,

    Sorry folks, our exit polls predicting a Kerry victory were all wrong, now let's rely on those same polls to explain how people voted.

    As another commenter mentioned, they separated economic and security issues, but didn't measure separate moral values issues.

    34% Security (Terrorism/Iraq)
    33% Economics (Taxes/Economy/Jobs/Health Care)
    22% Moral Values (??)

    Sigh

     
     
    #  March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM      Converted_Comment
    Converted comment: Posted by: kris at November 8, 2004 11:34 AM

    Actually, the exit polls are probably correct on why people voted. The problem Tuesday was with extrapolating results based on faulty samples.

    But you're right, they didn't separate moral issues, which is why it was left to liberal analysts to determine what that meant.

     
     

     

     


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