Toronto
Well, I just got back from a week in Toronto. A few thoughts:
-In the interests of full disclosure, I have many fond feelings for Canada. I find that, on the whole, Canadians are decent people...kind of like a nation full of Boy Scouts. Whenever I go up there they are always ready to help out a stranger. For example, a couple of days ago I got turned around in downtown Toronto and asked a passerby where Yonge street was...and he very courteously answered me. Try getting that reaction in Georgetown.
-The flight to Toronto was delayed by about two hours due to a mechanical problem. In my spot in the Dulles airport, I noticed the people who were sitting quietly were mainly the Canadians in the crowd. Similarly, the plane leaving Toronto was two hours late for unspecified reasons (United Airlines seems incapable of offering on-time flights) and again, the Canadians in the crowd were more accepting of the inconvenience. I don't know that I can draw many conclusions from that factoid, but make of it what you will.
-The Canadian Government, on the other hand, is something I don't think the Canadian people deserve. On the whole, it seems the Canadians are content to allow the "elite" to rule things, while they focus on their everyday lives. However, the idea of a government involving a queen thousands of miles away and only holding elections when they feel like it is, to my American idealism, looney.
-One area where the Canadian Government excels is, of course, the bureaucracy. Going through Canadian customs from the States was a breeze...less than 5 minutes in line, despite a fairly large crowd of people. Forms were distributed efficiently and requirements were made clear before anyone got in line. When I got to the customs officer, she was friendly and efficient.
-Contrast that with going through American customs. At Pearson airport, US Customs is done while still in Toronto. The forms were haphazardly distributed, and I didn't receive mine until I was turned away from getting in line. Once filled out, I stood in a rather long line (although it was made up of fewer people than the line to get into Canada), and line management was haphazard. The customs agent was surly. And the design of the area meant after one was finished with the customs guy, one had to meld into a huge crowd going through a very tight bottleneck to check luggage. Now I'm not saying I would like the US to have an efficient bureaucracy...but the entire thing seemed a little third world to me.
-One thing a visitor to Canada always finds striking...the abundance of national symbols. Most everywhere you look, you see maple leafs, and even corporate logos tend to incorporate them. Flags are flown unapologetically. From what I could tell this was all done from free will and not some law which requires PetroCanada to use national symbols in their logo. Remember after 9/11 when the Democratic Undergrounders criticized the outpouring of American patriotism? If I recall, it was denounced as cheap and phony, and that tends to be the complaint of our Left about most forms of naked patriotism. Well, if that's the case then Canadians must be the cheapest and phoniest people on the planet.
-The Canadian Budget was passed during my stay. As Paul Martin (the Canadian Prime Minister) heads what's a Minority Government (meaning his party holds a minority of seats in Parliament), the Conservatives could call an election pretty much whenever they want. So that the budget passed while averting an election is good news for a country who prefers to allow the professionals to deal with things. As for the budget itself, it features some tax cuts, more funding for the military, easing of restrictions on RRSP accounts (kind of a cross between a 401(k) and Social Security), and other, well, conservative things. From the thumbnail sketch I got from the news, there wasn't much to complain about from a conservative point of view.
-The press in Canada can be vicious, in stark contrast to the average Canadian's demeanor. The National Post is considered Canada's conservative paper (from my reading, it just reads less liberal) and excoriated Paul Martin in no uncertain terms. For example, on Thursday Paul Martin made somewhat contradictory statements about missile defense in North America. The Post took issue with that, saying things in straight news articles that I'd rail against mightily if they appeared in the New York Times.
-The NHL lockout is hitting Toronto hard. It's a huge hockey town (and you'd be too if the only other sports you had were the Raptors and the Blue Jays) and the lack of the sport has not only hit the team hard...but all the subsidiary businesses. Bars near the Air Canada Centre closed early and business was light. Ditto with restaurants (that I could walk into Jamie Kennedy's Wine Bar with a few coworkers and get served fairly quickly says volumes). I don't mean to make the Toronto economy sound like it's faltering. It isn't (the 7:30 am Tim Horton's line makes that clear). But the NHL lockout does have an impact, both material and on the town's morale.
-Most of the people in Toronto I've talked to about the lockout seem to be on the side of management. One fellow opined that if the players are asking for too much money, just fire them and put out some of the guys in the minors. While I don't agree entirely with that, I do think it shows just how much hockey is loved in this town. Any hockey game, even minors, is considered a good game for the town's residents. And one side development of this lockout...minor league games are getting a degree of recognition they haven't had before. For example, a minor game was getting prime-time televised coverage...and it was a good game. Keep this up and the NHLPA's case will evaporate.
-So now I have some mail, and current events, to catch up on. See y'all later.
Posted by John Tant at February 28, 2005 07:25 AM
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| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
Good rundown of the Canucks. Enjoyed it thoroughly and found it to be extremely accurate! Just one small thing...it's not a hockey strike, it's a lockout. Seems like a small thing (either way, it means there's no hockey), but really, it's a pretty important difference. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
Canada sounds pretty nice.... ....so now it AMAZES me that asshats like Bill Maher, Peter Jennings, Melissa Barf-der-Maur, etc., run across our borders and tell us how we should run things....all the while gobbling up our money. They never criticize our money. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
TJ, you're absolutely correct. It isn't a strike, it's a lockout. I guess I'm still high on poutine. I'll make that change asap. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
when i flew to toronto back in 2000 i got "detained" by canadian customs for like 1/2 hour. i showed up without a passport and without a birth certificate, and apparently that rubbed the woman at the gate the wrong way, b/c she made a really big deal about canada being "a different country." "i didnt realize that i needed a passport to come to Canada, here is my driver's license." "didn't realze? it's a different country! what did you think, eh?" "well, i was under the impression that i only needed to fill out a form, and to prove that i was an american citizen....." "right! and how does your driver's licence prove that? do you have to be a US citizen to get one of those?!? you should have a passport! this is a different country!!!" "umm, no, but since you accept a birth certificate, and those aren't exactly hard to fake, i don't see what the big deal is..." "it's a different country! what do you mean you don't see what the big deal is!?" "well, i could drive across and show only my license, and it wouldn't be a problem." "but you're not driving, you are flying! to a different country!!" on and on it went. i had to sit there for a long time in a special little room while she called someone to come down and help "resolve" the situation. after about a half-an-hour of waiting, the person still hadn't showed up. i remembered that i had my selective service registration card in my wallet and i showed her that - placated, she quit her power trip and let me in to canada. whatever this woman's problem was, i have no idea, but her attitude wasn't represenatative of the other canadians that i met. they were mostly very friendly, as you described. my favorite things about toronto: 2. metropolitan city - very cool downtown area. 3. cheap sushi! 1. lots of shoe stores. if you're traveling with a woman, this can be a problem. 2. asking for "dressing" on your salad gets you a huge wallop of mayo smack in the middle of it. they should tell you this at the border. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
"'right! and how does your driver's licence prove that? do you have to be a US citizen to get one of those?!? you should have a passport! this is a different country!!!'" Doesn't that kind of capture the essence of our problems with drivers licenses as ID? When Canada....CANADA....recognizes the shortcomings of that as an ID, why the outrageous rhetoric from the Left condemning the Federal Government's recognition of the same thing? |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
Wait, how can "Oh, Canada" not be one of your favorite things about Canada? I seem to remember getting a very late night call down in Texas with some very drunk "singers" attempting a rendition of the song. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
Just a clarification. RRSP's are not a cross between 401(k) and Social Security, its better. No government involvement whatsoever. Basically its a tax deferred account you can put money into, which is 100% tax deductable, and which grows tax free. The limits are pretty high also. Currently at 17% of your total income or $17,000. The limits are also trasferable year after year if you don't max out your allotment. You can invest in stock, bonds, whatever. As for our national press, all of our national papers editorially endorse Marijuana Legalization as does 50% of the people. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
Jim, thanks for the clarification on RRSPs, although to be honest I'm not sure I'd consider a tax exempt plan to really have "no government involvement whatsoever." By being tax exempt, the government is at least tacitly encouraging it. Anyway, I called it a cross between a 401(k) and Social Security in order to put it in terms most US readers would easily understand, aware I was skipping a fair bit of detail. But your points are taken and I think we both agree it would be nice if US Social Security morphed into such a system. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
Let me explain something to folks.... My mum is from Canada, I have family in Canada and I was in Toronto myself just a couple of years ago. I will attest to the fact that the Maple Leaf Flag, Canada's National Flag IS everywhere.... It has always always been this way but the way it is flown is not so obviously IN YOUR FACE as the US Flag is.
Suddently folks wore American Flags (Especially women and their American Flag sweatshirts and sweaters and earings and jewelry) Folks plastered their cars with tons of American Flags... Monster Trucks driving down the highway with like 20 small flippy flags hanging off every point on the vehical and one BIG monster flag in the center.. stickers of American flags all over the car... I mean, why don't you just paint your car Red White and Blue???? jeesh. The problem is a matter of ATTITUDE.... It is called JINGOISM... 2 entries found for jingoism. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Download or Buy Now]
n 1: an appeal intended to arouse patriotic emotions [syn: flag waving] 2: fanatical patriotism [syn: chauvinism, superpatriotism, ultranationalism]
Canadians aren't Jingoistic. American's tend to be. They are quick to fly a flag .... put a sticker on their car "support the troops" but they are still driving Gas Guzzling vehicals and being overall jerks, ready to pounce on ANYONE who Dares even LOOK at the president sideaways. Any real community that came about after 9/11 was destroyed by Bush and his followers. They were Jingoistic. Ready to attack.. .ready to be angry at SOMEONE.. ready to kill, ready to fight, ready to BOMB someone or something... VENGENCE IS MINE (sayeth the Lord). They are quick to label any one who protects the idea of Flag Burning as unpatriotic.. yet I have seen some of the most obscene abuse of the American flag by these overly hostile "patriots"... some of the UGLIEST Cloths.. the Flippy flags that are in tatters... (which, btw.. is considered NOT respectful you are actually supposed to BURN a flag when it becomes tattered or torn instead of continuing to hang it)
read:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STANDARDS of RESPECT The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal. The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary. When a flag is so worn it is no longer fit to serve as a symbol of our country, it should be destroyed by burning in a dignified manner.
Note: Most American Legion Posts regularly conduct a dignified flag burning ceremony, often on Flag Day, June 14th. Many Cub Scout Packs, Boy Scout Troops, and Girl Scout Troops retire flags regularly as well. Contact your local American Legion Hall or Scout Troop to inquire about the availability of this service. http://www.usflag.org/flag.etiquette.html
So.. .there you have it... Peace |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
wow, where to even start responding to people like caelidh... ill content myself with: "They are quick to fly a flag .... put a sticker on their car "support the troops" but they are still driving Gas Guzzling vehicals and being overall jerks" as if somehow using gasoline and supporting troops are mutually exclusive activities... heh. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
I'm not sure I'm getting the whole point of Caelidh's response. First, he agrees with me that national symbols are everywhere, but then somehow turns that into a cudgel, as if displays of patriotism aren't valid unless they are judged tasteful. Before I begin, I need to make the disclaimer that my recent observations are FROM TORONTO. I'm putting that out there to show that I'm not making the same mistake many people (including Torontonians) make in thinking Toronto = Canada. In my experience, Toronto just THINKS it's all of Canada. ;) That out of the way, I saw a LOT of national pride on display during my week in Toronto (which was, aside from the NHL lockout, apparently an average week). And for the life of me, I can't figure out how a maple leaf integrated with, say, the Golden Arches logo on a McDonald's french fry box isn't "in your face." The same type of thing in the US would be greeted with derisive comments about McDonald's wrapping itself in the flag to get the redneck (or Newfie, if you're Canadian) dollar. But at least in Toronto, no one appeared to give it a second thought. In fact, it was par for the course. And I've noticed the same thing the numerous times I've been to Canada (my professional life has been intertwined with Canada for close to the past ten years now...) and the many more times I've spoken to Canadians. I'm not begrudging it at all. Far from it, I think national pride is a good thing, and Canadians have a lot to be proud about. I'm just fascinated that one of the nations the Left would like the US to be more like indulges in an activity the hard Left generally finds distasteful. As for patriotism displays shortly after 9/11, in statistics I think we'd call that an outlier. If hijacked airliners took out the CN Tower and the Eaton Centre, I'm pretty sure we'd see something similar in Canada. My point in making the original observation is that outward displays of patriotism in Canada don't seem to be derided as much as a similar display would be by the DU crowd in the US. |
| # March 7th, 2005 6:48 PM Converted_Comment | |
taking out the CN tower.. killing tens in the process |







