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  • Why I Might Support McCain for President

       March 09, 2006

    I had a revelation this morning. I think I'm going to back John McCain if he runs for President in 2008.

    Too many liberals are so blinded by their white hot hatred of President Bush that they simply can't see what's going on in the world around them. If we have a President that isn't the de facto cause of all the world's evils, perhaps these people can be brought slowly down the road back to sanity.

    For example, in an article about an upcoming conference on Islam in Madison, the writer starts with this little gem:

    Mustafa Gokcek isn't about to deny the obvious.

    Thanks mostly to the policies of the Bush administration, the great rift between the Muslim and Western worlds clearly has widened in the last year, acknowledges the 29-year-old Turkish native and UW-Madison grad student.

    And there's no better proof, he says, than the tens of thousands of angry protesters who greeted the president on his recent trip to India and Pakistan.

    Here are four things that are so wrong about this statement and prove my thesis that one of the dangerous side effects of Bush Derangement Syndrome is a serious case of ignorance.

    1. Since when did India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Sudan and Nigeria (among others) become part of the West? Either the Muslim world has a rift with everybody (including itself) or the West just got a whole lot less exclusive. I'm opting for the former.
    2. How could the rift between the West and Muslims get any wider than when Muslim extremists killed 3,000 of us on our own soil and Muslims around the world cheered them on?
    3. What policies of Bush's are making this rift even wider? Muslim terrorists have been trying to kill us for years. If Bush has made any real policy changes it's in his shocking decision to fight back when people try to kill us.
    4. Hmm, so the best recent example of the rift between Muslims and the West are protests of Bush in India and Pakistan? Huh. I seem to remember Muslims protesting something all over the place recently. What could it be? Oh yeah, they were protesting against free speech. BDS sufferers like to ignore that.

    Almost anyone could be President and the majority of the Muslim world is going to act exactly the same. But maybe if Bush is out of the way, more Americans can see the truth of what is happening. Muslim extremists don't hate Bush's policies. They hate America and the freedom she stands for. I think it's really important that we all realize that.

    I've never been sold on McCain as a President, but he's respected by everyone. No one, other than some conservatives, hates him. He's been a firm backer of the War and he's a fiscal conservative. We could do worse than McCain. With a President McCain maybe more Americans will get on board the sanity train and stay away from the appeasement wagon.


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    #  March 9th, 2006 8:16 AM      BVBigBro
    Bush will not be running in 2008. He will be out of office regardless of your vote.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 8:18 AM      kris
    Well right, but I can see a lot of Republicans just being played like Bush III. McCain wouldn't be.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:04 PM      james
    im pretty sure that im never going to cast a presidential vote again. but if i was to vote in 2008, id probably vote for hillary. boo-hiss, boo-hiss, whatever. what's the hell is the difference? she's more of a republican than george bush.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:05 PM      Squibbly
    What about Rudy Giuliani though? He's also a well respected politician (among democrats as well as republicans). He also would definately not be painted as Bush III.
     
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:08 PM      kris
    that's true. i could be okay with Rudy too.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:10 PM      kris
    James,

    I don't think there's anyone out there now that could make a big positive difference as President, but that certainly doesn't mean there never will be again. Look at Reagan. There's bound to be someone like him again in your lifetime and you better vote for him (or her).  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:13 PM      kris
    I also think that Republicans would have the same reaction to Hillary as Dems do to Bush. They'd all start suffering from Hillary Derangement Syndrome and they'd have stupid, knee jerk reactions to anything she wanted to do, even if was a good idea.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:40 PM      james
    kris, it's not a matter of the candidate being sub-par, it's that im insulted by the campaigns. and you should be too. candidates campaign to demographic groups. their soundbytes are all substanceless. the message is always "vote for me so the other guy doesn't ruin the country," or "vote for me to make america stronger."

    people don't know anything about the issues, and for the most part, they only vote for the candidate that better appeals to them for superficial reasons, like "he's from my generation" or "he's from a state that i like/dislike." it's inane.

    you know that my position has always been that people shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place. they're just plain uneducated about government and politics, and both parties work to keep it that way.

    in the 2004 election, i saw friends of mine almost come to blows over the whole bush v. kerry thing. why? there is about 1 degree of difference between bush and kerry. if even that much. these people were just all wrapped up in the marketing of the thing.

    the fact is that whoever is president matters very little in the big scheme of things.

    if you want to keep jumping through their hoops and walking around feeling all smug with your little "i voted" sticker, be my guest. i'm not playing that game anymore.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:41 PM      james
    the republicans would have the same reaction to hillary, no doubt about that. which may be why i'd support her. i think that i only supported bush b/c i liked how pissy the little liberal crybabies got about it.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:46 PM      kris
    i know that campaigns are pretty discouraging-i'm just saying that there are going to be times when there is a candidate of substance and it's worth voting for him.

    the 1994 Contract with America was good marketing, but it was also substantive. i think it's the exception, but don't write off voting because those kinds of exceptions are going to happen.

    if people like you stop voting then we're one step closer to ONLY having govt by the uninformed  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 12:54 PM      james
    your argument only works if my vote counts for more than other peoples'. (and really, it should.) but it doesn't.

    maybe youre misunderstanding - i dont CARE who gets elected president. IT DOESNT MATTER. if you think that there is some core group of voters out there that counterbalances the idiots, you're blissfully blind. almost no one casting a ballot is informed. ours is a rudderless ship of fools.  
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 3:23 PM      BVBigBro
    So all the dems have to do to get your vote is come up with a new slogan with some nautical references?

    Hillary Clinton - I'll be your rudder.

    Democrats - Plotting a course to a better future.

    John Edwards - A captain for these troubled times.

    Al Gore - Fathoming the problems of our day.

     
     
    #  March 9th, 2006 3:25 PM      james
    howard dean - "aaaargh!" ... no, wait, he tried that one last year  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 12:09 AM      Daddy
    I don't believe in John McCain. If he wins, he wins. Strikes me as "politics as usual".

    I like Tancredo. A rudderless ship is no match for a TANK!

    (how's that for a campaign slogan?).  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 12:25 AM      Squibbly
    I'd really love to see Colin Powell run for President. He's a guy who I have a lot of respect for and who seems to be intelligent, well respected, and experienced at leading. Unfortunately, he's apparently too smart to run...  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 8:13 AM      kris
    If Powell ran for President, Squibbly, I think you'd be shocked by the rhetoric directed at him. The names he'd be called would just be sickening.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 10:06 AM      BVBigBro
    Exactly who would qualify as Bush III?  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 10:08 AM      kris
    Rice, Cheney and Jeb Bush, for starters.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 10:13 AM      BVBigBro
    Rice and Cheney have already said they won't run.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 10:21 AM      kris
    I think Rice will almost certainly run  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 1:49 PM      Squibbly
    Yeah, I'm thinking that Powell doesn't want to put himself or his family though the whole messy process of running for President.

    About Rice running, I could see her running but I don't see her getting the Republican Party nomination, just like I don't see Hilary getting the Democratic Party's nomination. Is America ready for a woman president?  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:20 PM      james
    kris: "I think Rice will almost certainly run"

    based on what? the hot tip she gave you at the hairdresser last week?  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:38 PM      kris
    like i'd ever go to the same place that gives her that horrible helmet cut...  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:50 PM      james
    so how in the world can you say that she will "almost certainly run" when you have no inside information at all? she's never run for public office before, has expressed no interest, and has said that she isn't running. the last job she expressed interest in was the position of nfl commissioner. you don't know her personally, nor do you know anyone who knows her. yet here you are saying that you're so (almost) positive that she will run for president. i want to know what you're basing that on.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:54 PM      kris
    can't i just have an unfounded opinion? good lord, what's the internet if not the land of unfounded opinions?  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:55 PM      james
    the land of easily accessible porn. duh.
     
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:55 PM      james
    oh, and pictures of owls.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:56 PM      BVBigBro
    What do you care, James? You're not voting anyways.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 3:59 PM      james
    "What do you care, James? You're not voting anyways. "

    i'm also not going to buy the next clay aiken album, but i think it's ridiculous when his fans come in here and start spouting off things like "omg clay would never do that!!!"
     
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 4:00 PM      BVBigBro
    I think Clay will be voting. And I think Clay would want you to vote, too.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 4:01 PM      kris
    please don't compare me to a Clay fan girl. that's just harsh, man. harsh.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 4:01 PM      kris
    heee, Clay's so a voter. I'm sure he wears the sticker too. Proudly.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 4:02 PM      james
    clay will only vote if oprah tells him to.
    or if one of the fab five runs.  
     
    #  March 10th, 2006 4:04 PM      kris
    imagine the uproar you could generate if you could write something that ticked off both Clay fans and Oprah fans  
     
    #  March 14th, 2006 9:14 AM      BVBigBro
    How do you feel about the emperor, Joe Lieberman?  
     
    #  March 14th, 2006 11:55 AM      Laura
    If I had to vote Democrat, it would be esy to vote for Lieberman. I don't agree with a lot of his positions, but I believe he's more honest than most politicians. Certainly less hypocritical.  
     
    #  March 14th, 2006 12:08 PM      BVBigBro
    In any event, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell he'll ever be nominated.  
     
    #  March 14th, 2006 12:53 PM      james
    less hypocritical? how so? the guy ran for VP, promising his supporters a win, yet didn't retire from the Senate.

    my lord, he even ran with an incumbent.

    his job in the senate is to represent the state of connecticut. you can't do that while running for president.

    the lieberman message is loud and clear: me me me me, me first.  
     
    #  March 14th, 2006 1:57 PM      Laura
    Compared to other pols, James...

    He's had plenty of chances to weasel out on terrorism issues like his compatriots, and he's stuck to his guns even though it's cost him support. Granted, it's damning with faint praise, but when compared to most other politicians, I believe he's honest.  
     

     

     


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