An important announcement from the Department of Green Bay Packers Fans Mental Security (GBPFMS)
January 24, 2010
Posted by at January 24, 2010 09:32 PM
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The Vikings Super Bowl threat level is now green.
Posted by at January 24, 2010 09:32 PM
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|# January 24th, 2010 9:38 PM BVBigBro|
|Two picks, a fumble and a 70 passer rating. That's the Brett we know. |
|# January 24th, 2010 9:40 PM kris|
|If he does actually retire then his last pass with the 'Queens will be an interception, just like with the Packers. Heh.
Also - I assume he'll cry "injury", but if not, he and Aaron Rodgers will be the QBs in the Pro Bowl next week. Awkward!
|# January 24th, 2010 9:42 PM KVBigSis|
|Kris, you've been living in MN too long. The threat level was ALWAYS green. |
|# January 24th, 2010 9:48 PM kris|
|Ha! You're probably right. But just think about how awful it would have been if they had actually won? |
|# January 24th, 2010 9:48 PM BVBigBro|
|The game's been over for 20 minutes and they still haven't interviewed him. Favre must really be crying. |
|# January 24th, 2010 9:50 PM kris|
|oh please, that motherfavring drama queen would never pass up the opportunity to show his "passion for the game" on camera.
I'm enjoying this so much that I might actually watch the local news for the first time ever.
|# January 24th, 2010 9:56 PM kris|
|Hey, did you guys know that Peyton Manning was from New Orleans? |
|# January 24th, 2010 9:59 PM kris|
|# January 24th, 2010 10:45 PM james|
|According to a comment here:
|# January 24th, 2010 10:51 PM kris|
|the Vikings got exactly what they deserved and should have expected |
|# January 24th, 2010 10:52 PM kris|
|Wait, why are the Vikings fans crying about the coin toss? Really? |
|# January 24th, 2010 11:15 PM james|
|This story has some fun comments on it. I hope some of them are in jest.
About that "third touchdown" the Saints had.....
I hate this team!!! I told you all!!!
Favre lost this one......
|# January 24th, 2010 11:17 PM james|
|Since the day Favre signed with the Vikings I've been telling my Minnesota friends that it would end exactly like this - that Favre would get frustrated in the playoffs and throw an INT to end the season. Oh, how nice it feels to be so right!
Now, bring on the "will he or won't he come back" drama. Let Favre hold the Vikings hostage for an off season. Then they'll have the full experience.
|# January 24th, 2010 11:23 PM james|
Bought and paid for!
would be better off without favre and peterson
Last booth review wrong
|# January 24th, 2010 11:27 PM kris|
|Ah, The Brett Favre Experience, it's a whole lot nicer from the outside looking in. |
|# January 24th, 2010 11:30 PM kris|
|My own sister bitched about the Saints' "dirty" play. It's not flag football. And yes, Joe Buck, that personal foul call on the Saints was total BS. |
|# January 24th, 2010 11:37 PM james|
|Anyone else amused at how Joe Buck argued with Troy Aikman about the call? $10 says Aikman wanted so badly to say, "Oh, really Joe Buck? That's your opinion? How many years did you play in the NFL?" |
|# January 24th, 2010 11:41 PM james|
|# January 25th, 2010 12:46 AM james|
|I've watched that last interception about 30 times now. Favre had Berrian wide open on the sideline at about the 35, with room to run. But he ignored the play that would have put them into FG range. Instead, he went for the big play to Rice, across his body, and got picked.
Had Favre thrown to Berrian, Vikes would have likely won that game.
|# January 25th, 2010 8:38 AM kris|
|Actually, the Viqueens haven't had the full extent of The Brett Favre Experience yet. That'll happen when he hems and haws about retiring, so they either won't get Donovan McNabb because of that OR they'll get McNabb and Favre will act like a jilted diva again and try to worm his way to AZ. |
|# January 25th, 2010 8:41 AM james|
|Yep. That's what I meant by "hold the team hostage."
another comment. this one, from another star tribune article. (if you're from minnesota, it's always someone else's fault.)
|# January 25th, 2010 8:43 AM kris|
|Yes, the NFL had absolutely no interest in promoting a Favre/Manning Super Bowl. Yep, that sounds about right.
From the comments to a GB Press Gazette article:
Be careful if you're outside today. You might be hit by one of the tens of thousands of Vike fans leaping off the bandwagon.
I'd also like to note that I'm wearing black and gold today, just to be an asshole.
|# January 25th, 2010 8:47 AM kris|
|Okay, some of the other comments to that article are hilarious:
How great was it to see good ol' boy Brent get beat to a pulp last night and then throw the pick that losses the game? What a loser! Should have stayed retired, old man! LOL What a friggin' GREAT game!! The looks on Deanna's face were priceless!!
Brett is who we thought he was again last night!
You know, my wife, who knows virtually nothing of football, was out grocery shopping and came home just as Minnesota was starting their final drive. I told her it looked like Minnesota was going to win because they didn't have far to go for a field goal, the other team can't seem to stop them, and time was running out so the other team wouldn't likely have any time to try to score. She looked at the TV a minute, recognized Favre, then asked me if that was the guy who kept throwing the ball to the other team when he was with the Packers. When I said yes, she said, "Maybe he'll do it again here", then walked out the room. Two plays later.... Hilarious.
Which was more pleasurable: (1) The result of the game; (2) the regulation ending interception and drive killer by Favre; (3) watching the Saints beat Favre like a pinata.
|# January 25th, 2010 9:00 AM james|
These conspiracy theories must be indicative of some sort of mental problem. A very widespread mental disorder centered in the state of Minnesota. Perhaps it's caused by an abundance of the color purple?
|# January 25th, 2010 9:07 AM james|
|For that matter, who was the 12th man on the field? |
|# January 25th, 2010 9:22 AM james|
|The most racist comment of the day comes from a reader at the Pioneer Press:
|# January 25th, 2010 9:29 AM kris|
|Stay classy, Minnesota! |
|# January 25th, 2010 9:39 AM kris|
|Chilly on the 12th man |
|# January 25th, 2010 9:42 AM kris|
|From Aaron Nagler on Twitter:
Really hope Farve gives the Vikings the full treatment and waits until after the draft to decide. I mean, they paid for the whole package.
|# January 25th, 2010 9:48 AM kris|
|I remember back in '98/'99 when they lost to the Falcons in the NFC Championship Game. I knew a guy, Eric, who was a huge Vikings fan. He had even traveled to the game and everything. After the game, one of his friends circulated an email. It instructed us to give him a day to mourn and then we were all supposed to bombard him with emails - the email even gave us suggested talking points. It was incredibly cruel, but incredibly funny too. |
|# January 25th, 2010 9:56 AM james|
|Eric the Viking fan? How apropos. |
|# January 25th, 2010 9:59 AM kris|
|Ha! I never even thought of that. Poor Eric, he's actually a really nice guy. Too nice for what the Vikings do to him.
My friend Tim is a sportswriter and a big Vikings fan. On Facebook he asked "Ah, Vikings. How many times can you break my heart before it shatters?"
I think the answer is 11.
|# January 25th, 2010 10:22 AM james|
|I'm loving all of the comments calling for a Peterson trade. I even got a text message during the game that read, "We'll trade you AP for Rodgers, straight up."
I'll be honest - 2 years ago, I was saying that the Vikes would be best off trading Peterson for a few solid players & draft picks, ala the Herschel Walker deal that laid the foundation for the 90's Cowboys dynasty. But I was wrong - the Vikes managed to put a great team around A.D. I didn't think they could, but they did. Trading him now would be a mistake. Oh, how quickly these fans turn...
|# January 25th, 2010 10:26 AM kris|
|Seriously, there's not a player in the NFL that I would trade Rodgers for, especially not a RB.
The NFL is littered with great RBs who never won a Super Bowl. There are very few great QBs who haven't. Marino, Tarkenton, Kelly. Who else?
It's a QB league, baby and the Packers are sitting pretty and the Vikings are entering the Age 'O Sage.
|# January 25th, 2010 10:48 AM james|
|What makes a great quarterback? Seems to me that we call a quarterback "great" based on stats, not results.
Joe Montana: 4 Superbowl wins
Tom Brady: 3 Superbowl wins
Ben Roethlisberger: 2 Superbowl wins
Brett Favre: 1 Superbowl win
Kurt Warner: 1 Superbowl win
Trent Dilfer: 1 Superbowl win
Few would argue that Dilfer is a great QB; the line on him is that his team was great, and he was just along for the ride. (And I'd agree.) But if the conventional wisdom is that "great teams find a way to win," why can't the same be said of great quarterbacks?
Obviously, every situation is different, and a career can't be summed up by circumstances beyond the QB's control. But it does beg the question - at what point does a so-called great quarterback become a liability, doing more harm than good?
All gleeful schadenfreude aside, Favre had a great season. There's no denying that. But he's also had a number of seasons in which he threw more INT's than TD's. And more than his fair share of bone-headed season enders. Any other quarterback would have been benched.
I'm not saying that Favre isn't a great QB. Or that Dilfer is a great QB. But take someone like Kurt Warner - why is Favre considered a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame, while Warner's inclusion isn't as certain?
|# January 25th, 2010 11:04 AM kris|
|Actually, I think it's the opposite - we call a QB "great" because of results rather than stats. That's because we expect the QB to be the leader of the team too and so team results reflect more on him personally.
I think you have to go back a bit further in your QBs to guys like Terry Bradshaw. He's "great" and in the Hall of Fame, but the Steelers didn't win because of him. Or what about a guy like Ken Stabler? I'll be honest, I don't really know much about him but I know that the Raiders won Super Bowls with him.
I think the sports media hypes up everyone to be great or suck when the fact of the matter is is that football is a team sport and sometimes greatness isn't measured in stats it's measured in doing things like not losing.
There seem to be few QBs that combine the spectacular with the steady. Manning seems to be one. Brady is one and I think Rodgers has the potential to be one.
Sure, Favre had a great season, but at the end of the day the Vikings went all in and got exactly one game further than they did last year with Tavaris Jackson.
I don't know about the Warner thing. I think in St. Louis he was seen as a system guy. I honestly think that his game against the Packers may be what puts him over the top and into the Hall. I mean, the guy was frickin' perfect.
|# January 25th, 2010 11:51 AM james|
|I don't know a lot about Bradshaw, but I wouldn't exactly call him Trent Dilfer.
The first player chosen in the 1970 draft, Bradshaw led the Steelers to eight AFC Central titles and those four Super Bowl titles. Bradshaw was selected Super Bowl MVP in Super Bowls XIII and XIV. His career stats of 27,879 passing yards and 212 touchdown passes cement his status as one of the game's great quarterbacks, but were also limited by the era in which he played. Nevertheless, I firmly believe Bradshaw is the fifth greatest quarterback of all-time.
If I'm putting together a list of "Top 5 quarterbacks of all time," something I'm wholly unqualified to do, Brett Favre doesn't make the list. I'm not even sure that Favre makes the top ten. As you said, the QB is seen as the leader of the team. Being a leader is more than just throwing touchdowns. It means handing off when it's in the best interest of the team. It means letting your defense carry the load if the situation warrants. Brett Favre isn't comfortable doing either of these things.
If we want our great QB's to be hero field generals, they should be the complete package. Favre was great when teamed with Holmgren. Since then, meh, not so much.
|# January 25th, 2010 11:54 AM kris|
|You know, I was just thinking this morning that I totally underestimated Mike Holmgren. I really hated him after the 2nd Super Bowl because I felt like his courting of Seattle at the time was a distraction. I think my feelings about that have clouded my analysis of him and how important he was to the Packers.
If Holmgren doesn't leave I think the Favre-era Packers win at least one other Super Bowl, maybe more.
Damn...I never thought I'd be able to give Holmgren that kind of credit.
|# January 25th, 2010 12:21 PM james|
|Maybe next season will bring a great Holmgren-Mangini-Favre reunion in Cleveland. Favre could singlehandedly put an end to the Quinn-Anderson QB controversy by taking both of their jobs. Brett Favre, the Jay Leno of the NFL. |
|# January 25th, 2010 12:27 PM kris|
|Oh yeah - NBC should be booking him right now!
One funny thing was how immediately after the game the Favre Sears ads ran. I don't think Minny finds them so funny or charming anymore.
Actually, one of my really good friends is a marketing person for Sears in the electronics category, so I probably should shut up. Or just silently applaud him for some excellent placements, at least from a Packer fan's perspective :)
|# January 25th, 2010 2:46 PM james|
|I think this comment accurately reflects most Minnesotans views on the game.
I like to call it "The Psyche of a Loser."
|# January 25th, 2010 3:02 PM BVBigBro|
|I thought the calls went almost exclusively Minnesota's way. The roughing the passer call was, as Aikman pointed out, a bad call. The pass interference call I thought was uncatchable, but this is hard to judge when the interference prevents the receiver from moving towards the ball.
Meachem's catch was clearly a catch and the ball is never seen to touch the ground. Thomas' first down was a first down all the way. The Brees call went against New Orleans and I thought this was a bad call as Brees appeared to have the first down on replay.
|# January 25th, 2010 3:10 PM kris|
|I hope that that attitude is being shouted down by more rational fans. I mean, lots of Packer fans were bitching the day after the Cardinal game too, but there were just as many people saying that a) we were lucky to be in OT and b) we couldn't stop them and didn't deserve to win.
I'm sure there must be some Vikings fans out there saying they lost because they coughed the ball up too many times. Right? Bueller?